Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ted's Restaurant
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Noting that the nominator has withdrawn their nomination and that sources provided by the keep !votes outweigh the arguments presented by the two remaining delete !vote. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 20:11, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
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I prodded this a while back with "Sadly, the single reference for this local business is of dubious reliability; this article seems to fail WP:COMPANY requirement.". It has been deprodded by User:Colonel Warden who added a book reference (sadly, the book does not seem to be online, either in Google Book preview, or, ekhm, LG. Outside of that reference, I cannot find anything except marketing website, and short paragraph-to-sentence mention in local media, which may call it world-famous, but barring any better, in-depth and reliable coverage, I am calling it for what it appears to be to me right now - Yellow Page-like spam. If anyone can access the book, it would be nice to confirm that it has more then one-two sentences on the restaurant. And, considering the book is from 2012, and given the quality of such publications, I'd also caution against the possibility that whatever is in this book is based on our own entry... Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:41, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. North America1000 15:32, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. North America1000 15:32, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Connecticut-related deletion discussions. North America1000 15:32, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
- Delete This fails WP:CORP, and the main food that it is known for "is a regional food", as it is said in the text. Not notable. ThePlatypusofDoom (talk) 17:21, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
- Comment It has appeared on a couple of Travel Channel shows (Man Vs.Food and Burger Land) as mentioned on the page. Whether that constitutes sufficient notability, I don't know, but it does indicate some non-local coverage. Pinball22 (talk) 18:05, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as I found nothing convincingly better. SwisterTwister talk 05:47, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
- Comment. The steamed cheeseburger itself appears to be a notable variation that should have not only an entry at List of hamburgers but also an article, in which this restaurant would be mentioned along with other well-known purveyors, supported by sources that describe the burger and often mention Ted's as an important exponent of the style, like The New York Times [1], Chicago Tribune [2][3][4], and Boston Globe [5]. --Arxiloxos (talk) 06:09, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
- Keep – The company actually comfortably passes WP:CORPDEPTH. It has even received coverage in major newspapers in other states. Source examples include those listed below. North America1000 10:21, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
References
- "Getting steamed is the only way at Ted’s in Meriden, Conn.". The Boston Globe.
- "Connecticut is weird and so are its steamed cheeseburgers (I ate it so you don't have to)". The Republican.
- "Ted's Steam Machine: Cheesy Goodness In The Park". Hartford Courant.
- "The Steamed Cheeseburger Comes To Cromwell". Hartford Courant.
- "Meriden burger delicacy goes mobile with Ted’s ‘Steam Machine’". Record-Journal.
- "'Meat and cheese in every bite': Ted's brings steamed burgers to North Haven". New Haven Register.
- Hamburger America. Running Press.
- "In Connecticut, Steamed Cheeseburger is King". QSR.
- "National Hamburger Month: We Line Up Connecticut's Most Iconic Burgers". Chicago Tribune. (4 ¶)
- "They brake for burgers". The Boston Globe. (around 3 ¶)
- Keep per references cited by Northamerica1000. Agree that the restaurant passes WP:CORPDEPTH and also meets WP:GNG. I also edited the book cite as I found there is a Google Books Preview. That link to the preview does reveal that the reference in the book is indeed three sentences, however, the newspaper mentions are enough to resolve notability concerns. (Note also that online sources are not required, even though we are creating an online encyclopedia, per Wikipedia:Offline sources.) Geoff | Who, me? 22:20, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
- Comment I found a second book source with a more extensive write up and added the cite to the article, along with some copyediting. Geoff | Who, me? 22:52, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
- Withdrawing nomination; sources from Northamerica and Geoff seem to show that notability is satisfied. Thank you for helping out. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:08, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
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